The Madani Economy Framework sets the lofty ambition of catapulting Malaysia into the world’s top 30 economies with a consistent 5.5% annual GDP growth in 10 years. Additionally, the government aims to break into the top 30 countries in the Global Innovation Index by 2025, as well as achieve high-tech nation status by 2030. How integrated are science and technology policies in achieving these outcomes? We discuss this with Chang Lih Kang, the Minister of Science, Technology and Innovation.