Sean Matthews worked with the Institute of Democracy and Economic Affairs, or IDEAS, on a project to address governance in higher education. The result of this collaboration is a paper titled “Autonomy and Accountability in Higher Education: Lessons from Ghana and Mexico.” Sean explains why looking at universities outside the Anglosphere is more instructive for Malaysian universities seeking to improve their scholarship, why chasing rankings is a bad idea for those not already among elite universities, and how Ghana and Mexico offer alternative models for us to emulate. This interview was originally aired on July 2017.